tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14395763.post6992093839990923753..comments2023-09-23T11:07:44.228-04:00Comments on On Rush Hour in D.C.: LanguagesJanet Kincaidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01396294382570650966noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14395763.post-47225647476168198562007-01-28T04:40:00.000-05:002007-01-28T04:40:00.000-05:00There is a writer called 'bell hooks' who, I think...There is a writer called 'bell hooks' who, I think, has done more to explain (in very very patient terms) what white priviledge is and does for the perpetuation and justification of racism in the US (and the UK, too, but on a different level, I notice). I haven't read any of her latest books but, 'Teaching to Transgress' was brilliant and opened my eyes even more...even though I understand and believe the truth of history, by virtue of my colour I still enjoy all of the priviledges of being white in a racist society. It's a dirty way to make a living.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14395763.post-49323850979381786662007-01-25T16:38:00.000-05:002007-01-25T16:38:00.000-05:00You brought up the concept of exclusiveness vs inc...You brought up the concept of exclusiveness vs inclusivness, how far should “inclusiveness” go? And by what measure is that inclusiveness set by? <br /><br />For example, should people who believe in Satan, Azazel or whatever devil of the month be accepted amongst even the most liberal Christians? If so or if not, why do you think so or why not?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14395763.post-84140847645081462262007-01-25T14:35:00.000-05:002007-01-25T14:35:00.000-05:00GF: Excellent point! Asking questions is such a de...GF: Excellent point! Asking questions is such a delicate process. It might sound good in my head, but when it comes out of my mouth... well, that can be an entirely different deal.<br /><br />Zanne: Have you heard from either school? I can't wait to find out where you land! Yes, learning the languages of faith is a blast. It's as fun as learning a foreign language, only without all the grammar rules!<br /><br />DJ Black Adam: Prattle away! I've believed for a long time now that more than economics or politics or education or even race, religion has defined and permeated and is more powerful than any other social demographic out there. It's the social system that defines and orders universes and that creates hideous institutions like caste systems and motivates politics (case in point: look at our own country right now and the extreme right.) Religion is about exclusion and say who's anointed and who isn't, which is really sad. I'd like to think God is grander than that and there is no exclusion. Unfortunately, we're dealing with humanity and it's efforts to harness God for its own agendas. Not only is that sad, it's scary.<br /><br />Rachel: Exclusiveness in religion is the great irony, isn't it? And it is confusing. Here you've got God saying, "Come to me, those of you who labor and are heavy burdened and I will give you a place to rest." S/he didn't, "Only those of you who have worked a full 8 hour day and who remembered to say your prayers and read your holy books and paid alms to the poor can come to me. The rest of you are slackers. Go away."<br /><br />If you want inclusive, there's always the Unitarian Universalists. They're known as the most inclusive group out there. You could worship a rock and your collection of your baby teeth and that's all right with them.Janet Kincaidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01396294382570650966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14395763.post-63197949058579216362007-01-25T13:37:00.000-05:002007-01-25T13:37:00.000-05:00I came a day too late but I went back and read you...I came a day too late but I went back and read your previous post and commented as well.<br />I am not as well spoken as your previous commenters so I will keep this short and sweet.<br />I grew up LDS and left when I was 18 as I found it too restrictive and judgemental. I didn't attend any kind of organized religious functions for years.<br />I wanted to find a community where anyone was accepted and that it didn't matter where you were on your path or even if you were on the path but that if you had the desire to attend that you were welcome.<br />I am utterly confused by the exclusionary tendencies that organized religion hold so closely to their heart.Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09995636108623685490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14395763.post-58853015338698478552007-01-25T09:46:00.000-05:002007-01-25T09:46:00.000-05:00I concur. Religion can get as touchy if not more t...I concur. Religion can get as touchy if not more touchy than race. I know that race is a scientific fiction, but the social reality of it is a very powerful tool to manipulate the masses. I do find it funny, that from my theological / religious studies, how the topic of race is approached in different religious traditions. I know that there are competing theories, but the Aryanism in the Vedic faiths (Hinduism) is foundational in the establishment of colorism within the caste system, I will one day look at how this foundation affected social Darwinism and eugenics.<br /><br />Of course the topic is addressed as well within the Abrahamic faiths, however, I ramble; don’t want to take up to much of your bandwidth with my prattling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14395763.post-63552065751717892462007-01-25T09:42:00.000-05:002007-01-25T09:42:00.000-05:00Makes perfect sense to me too! Am hoping to learn ...Makes perfect sense to me too! Am hoping to learn the language of religion this next year as I embark upon my seminary journey. Language can be such a barrier to connecting over that which IMHO is essential. GF is right about the importance of using our brains in asking the tough questions and listening to the answers. I think I'd add to that, that it is also important to remember that the heart, it's hopes and dreams, strengths and weaknesses, needs and desires, is the thing that links each of us to each other as brothers & sisters, regardless of race, religion, or whatever. (am probably gonna get a sound thrashing theologically this next year but c'est la vie!) :DZannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05740258189536994184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14395763.post-2660009690468269422007-01-25T06:58:00.000-05:002007-01-25T06:58:00.000-05:00Yes. You ARE making sense.
Religion and race are...Yes. You ARE making sense.<br /><br />Religion and race are both topics where it can be easy to offend, or be offended... but either of those things can be avoided when you learn the language... or are listening to whatever language the speaker is using.<br /><br />It is v. important to use the brain when asking the tough questions, but equally important to use the brain when listening to a question.Gunfighterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05762432006297768871noreply@blogger.com